Thursday, November 10, 2005

Why low limits get to me...

FullTiltPoker Game #286544216: Table Fairfield - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:57:33 ET - 2005/11/10
Seat 1: bkibgnk ($10)
Seat 2: boxcaral ($25.95)
Seat 3: IlliniFan ($40.65)
Seat 4: QuatelHelix ($35.75)
Seat 5: ShagstaMan ($27.55)
Seat 6: gshack ($21.55)
Seat 7: Scarbo ($10)
Seat 8: Acidrain77 ($9.90)
Seat 9: PeterA64 ($58.90), is sitting out
IlliniFan posts the small blind of $0.10
QuatelHelix posts the big blind of $0.25
bkibgnk posts $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IlliniFan [8d 8s]
ShagstaMan folds
gshack calls $0.25
Scarbo folds
Acidrain77 folds
bkibgnk checks
boxcaral folds
IlliniFan raises to $1
QuatelHelix calls $0.75
gshack calls $0.75
bkibgnk folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 5c 7d]
IlliniFan bets $3
QuatelHelix raises to $9
gshack folds
IlliniFan calls $6
*** TURN *** [4h 5c 7d] [2h]
IlliniFan checks
QuatelHelix bets $13
IlliniFan raises to $30.65, and is all in
QuatelHelix calls $12.75, and is all in
IlliniFan shows [8d 8s]
QuatelHelix shows [9c 9h]
Uncalled bet of $4.90 returned to IlliniFan
*** RIVER *** [4h 5c 7d 2h] [5s]
IlliniFan: ouch
IlliniFan shows two pair, Eights and Fives
QuatelHelix shows two pair, Nines and Fives
QuatelHelix wins the pot ($69.75) with two pair, Nines and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $72.75 | Rake $3
Board: [4h 5c 7d 2h 5s]
Seat 1: bkibgnk folded before the Flop
Seat 2: boxcaral (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: IlliniFan (small blind) showed [8d 8s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 4: QuatelHelix (big blind) showed [9c 9h] and won ($69.75) with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 5: ShagstaMan didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: gshack folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Scarbo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Acidrain77 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: PeterA64 is sitting out

Okay, here the rub...this guy starts talking a little bit about it after the hand is over. He says "I thought I was beat, but I had to call the last $11 into the $58 pot". This is the play that irks me at low limits. He says he thinks he's beat, and so he can only beat a bluff or hope for his 5% chance to hit the miracle 9 on the river. I've been showing quality hands all night and am up big, so my reraise should be screaming that he is beat. So he takes the roughly 6:1 to hit his (what he thinks) 2 outer on the river, a 20:1 shot. Granted, it turned out to be the correct call, but I label this as a donkey play if he truly thought he was beat. If this was a higher limit table (say $1/2 NLHE) where the $11 is now closer to $50, I don't see him making this call.

I realize that I had bad position with a mid-pocket pair, but this guy had the same thing and was making some strange calls with it....thoughts?


At 3:38 PM, Blogger My Pal Al said...

Your right. It took a lot of guts for the guy to call. I've just learned to accept this in low limit and try to over value hands.

At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dude,
I came across this in a web search... this guy actually developed into a really good player.

Good blog, keep it up.



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